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 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Settings, etc.

 Post subject: Re: Settings, etc.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:42 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 14366


The Start button is automatically added on Windows 8, the settings are automatically opened the first time the Start button is clicked where you can choose your style. From that same window, you can enable "All Settings" and you get access to all settings. Also, Classic Shell creates short...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Icons blink when the cursor is on the top if corner disabled

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:35 am 

Replies: 18
Views: 16012


Good catch and thanks for reporting. I can reproduce the bug. Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Make separate installer for Classic Start Menu.

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:21 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 4165


No plans as you can choose not to install Classic Explorer and Classic IE components during setup. For quiet/unattended installation, installer parameters are supported. For example, /qn ADDLOCAL=ClassicExplorer - installs only Classic Explorer in quiet mode /qn ADDLOCAL=ClassicStartMenu - installs ...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: SOLVED :) lol

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:25 pm 

Replies: 8
Views: 4781


I can't repro the issue. :( It means the bottom left hot corner isn't getting disabled. Have you any other Start Menu or Metro "fixing" software installed? The two can conflict.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Allow installer to take command line option for config xml

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:02 am 

Replies: 9
Views: 8766


It should make no difference whether the reg is merged before or after because when uninstalled, the settings are left and preserved in the registry. So a clean first-time install should be the same as a reinstall. Make sure you export the settings with "ShowedStyle" set to 1 in HKCU so yo...

 Forum: Chitchat   Topic: Resizing in Windows 8

 Post subject: Re: Resizing in Windows 8
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:37 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 23393


Btw, the font sizes of some items have been moved in Windows 8 to 'Display' in Control Panel as the Advanced Appearance settings were removed. :(

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Does per-user configuration override HKLM configuration?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:55 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 4727


HKLM.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Does per-user configuration override HKLM configuration?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:52 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 4727


If a setting exists in the HKLM branch or in both, it is locked. If it exists only in HKCU branch, it is user-changeable. It's like Group Policy's Computer Configuration vs User Configuration, but unlike Policy, it's not enforced if in HKCU. So more like Group Policy Preferences.

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Suggestion: Add multi-tabs as option to explorer

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:11 am 

Replies: 16
Views: 12342


There is already an excellent free app called QTTabBar which adds tabs to Explorer.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Cannot skip Metro screen

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:21 pm 

Replies: 22
Views: 32867


The dual solution of service+using UserInit will make it foolproof and once and for all end the issues of Metro not getting skipped. There is no harm in leaving behind the entry in userinit too because it doesn't give errors if the EXE isn't found. Microsoft had no right to cripple startup like this.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Open application on the display from where I clicked?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:17 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 2308


Yeah I highly want this too. It adds a lot of convenience. Multi-monitor software does this but all of them are paid, and none offer this feature in the free version. The way they do it is they just move the window to where the mouse pointer is at window startup.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Settings, etc.

 Post subject: Re: Settings, etc.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:15 pm 

Replies: 10
Views: 14366


First uninstall the installed version of Classic Shell. If you can't find the Win8StartButton uninstaller, install it once and then uninstall it. After you have uninstalled both, look for leftover files in C:\Program Files\<some folder> of Win8StartButton and delete them. Then install Classic Shell.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Settings, etc.

 Post subject: Re: Settings, etc.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:00 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 14366


Yes that will interfere as Win8 Start Button is based on Classic Shell. Uninstall it completely and then install Classic Shell.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Settings, etc.

 Post subject: Re: Settings, etc.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:33 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 14366


There is no step required. The button is added automatically right after installation completes. Do you use any third party anti-virus which may be conflicting with it? If so, look in its setting to exclude EXEs and exclude C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicStartMenu.exe. Otherwise, I am clueles...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Start Button Disappeared

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:02 am 

Replies: 12
Views: 22252


Look in Zone Alarm's setting for exclusion list to exclude EXEs and add ClassicShellMenu.exe to it.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Start Button Disappeared

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:10 am 

Replies: 12
Views: 22252


So the button failed to appear even after checking that setting and logging out? What do you mean the 'action seems to work'? :) Please go to Controls tab from Settings and check if Left click and Windows key opens settings are set to open the Classic Start Menu. Also, what anti-virus are you using ...

 Forum: Chitchat   Topic: Manage in Device Manager

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:55 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 38915


Works for me from right click. Does manually opening Compmgmt.msc work? If that doesn't then it's not a Classic Shell related issue.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Start Button Disappeared

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:36 pm 

Replies: 12
Views: 22252


I am also running Windows 8 32-bit, unfortunately unable to reproduce the issue. Check this. Open Classic Start Menu Settings. Click the All Settings radio button at the bottom. Then go to Start Button tab and make sure "Enable Start Button" checkbox is checked. Click OK, log out and log b...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Start Button Disappeared

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:52 pm 

Replies: 12
Views: 22252


The Start Menu can be manually started from C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicStartMenu.exe. Does starting it from there put the button back on the taskbar and do you see it running in the Task Manager? If yes, then it's just not starting at startup reliably. Put a shortcut to that EXE in your s...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Open a folder / the control panel / documents with one click

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:58 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 3752


The subfolders inside All Programs are not menu-defined items, they're file system objects. Also, some users (like myself) use single click to expand the menu and I disable the hover to expand (by increasing the Menu Delay). There wouldn't be a way to do that if subfolders open by single click. :)

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Open a folder / the control panel / documents with one click

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:55 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 3752


Yes it's possible. Go to Customize Start Menu tab in Start Menu settings, locate and double the item you want to single click and check the "Split Button Item" checkbox for it. That will turn it into a split button - with a menu and yet the item opens by single click. If you don't want the...

 Forum: Start Buttons   Topic: Problem replacing my start orb

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:16 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 38398


Btw you need an image that contain the 3 states of the button - normal, hot and pressed and for the transparency to work correctly, it must be a 32-bit PNG or BMP. By default the width of the image determines the size of the button. You can override that by entering a custom width.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: [csm] searching

 Post subject: Re: [csm] searching
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:12 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 6118


#1. Hmm. Feedback noted, but no promises (due to many feature requests from many users). #2. This will require many major changes for actually what we feel is a step back (just to make it like Windows 7 style). They are shown to the right so that more programs or search results can be shown, even in...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Win + Tab Menu

 Post subject: Re: Win + Tab Menu
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:37 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 2222


By Win+Tab menu, you mean that animated Flip 3D? It is removed. :( Win-Tab only works for Metro style apps now. And Alt-Tab remains for switching between all apps.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Shutdown option imediatelly shutdowns computer

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:13 am 

Replies: 6
Views: 5725


Yes, enable All Settings, go to Customize Start Menu tab, locate and double click "ShutdownBoxItem", change the command to simply "Shutdown" from the dropdown and click OK twice.

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Add Folder Size in the Classic Explorer?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:22 am 

Replies: 9
Views: 15066


Not possible because Microsoft removed the API to add custom columns for all file types at once in Vista. All column handler shell extensions which added information in columns were affected. Now you have to define properties which can only be added per file type and need to be supported by the file...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Cant find the settings for search > minimum caracter to show

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:23 pm 

Replies: 4
Views: 3470


The setting is for how many search results to show maximum. If more results are found than this, they won't be shown until you press Tab. It's on the Search Box tab of Classic Start Menu settings -> Max search results. Default value is 20. If you increase it, typing few characters will show more res...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Enable Classic Quick Launch

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:14 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 3090


There doesn't seem to be a way to do this programmatically but someone has created an AutoIt script here that will help I think: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/137889- ... -tool-105/

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Metro Glass Skin

 Post subject: Re: Metro Glass Skin
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:27 am 

Replies: 50
Views: 118131


Great job. :D

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Setup Start for 1 user -- not all

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:09 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 7879


All Classic Start Menu settings are per-user however on Windows 8, all items loaded at startup whether from the per-user or all user (per machine) startup locations are delayed significantly. Because of this, on Windows 8, Classic Shell uses a service to start itself fast, a service will start it fo...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: W8: Windows Update

 Post subject: Re: W8: Windows Update
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:14 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 2597


In the search box, type 'Windows Update' and right click it, then click 'Create shortcut'. The shortcut will be created on the desktop. Now right click the Start button, click Open and move the shortcut from the desktop there.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Programs Menu

 Post subject: Re: Programs Menu
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:27 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 3065


In XP, it does not open in the same column. It opens to the right in a different column. The Vista/7 style is inefficient because it restricts All Programs to a smaller area which the user has to scroll and requires clicking each subfolder to launch a program. Compared to that, the flyout style has ...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: My Music and My Video's

 Post subject: Re: My Music and My Video's
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:56 pm 

Replies: 11
Views: 9783


Jans, that would be on the Customize Start Menu tab in case you are lost due to too many settings. Go to that tab, scroll all the way down to add a Custom Command, double click it as jep said to add locations from Link dropdown. Reposition it wherever you want. If you don't want to expand them as a ...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Change font and padding for top caption

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:54 pm 

Replies: 10
Views: 7130


If by 'top caption' you mean the user name text, that parameter is called "User_font" in the Skin file. I changed it to User_font="Segoe UI",normal,16 instead of the default Segoe UI",bold,22. Makes it fit longer names. Make sure you open Resource Hacker as admin if you are ...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Pin to Startmenu

 Post subject: Re: Pin to Startmenu
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:49 pm 

Replies: 16
Views: 12608


Writing a feature to import the pinned items isn't worth it IMHO because the user can effortlessly re-create them for Classic Start Menu by drag and drop or using that tutorial tools. How many pinned items you have, can't be more than 20. The advantage of Classic Start Menu's style (of showing Start...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Buffer area to the left of the start menu icon

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:44 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 3654


A custom Start button will solve your problem. If you use a wider image, space can be reserved on the left side. Here, I made one for you (attached). See if it works for you. Look in the help if you need to adjust the space more. The button height must be 3 times the width obviously.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Allow installer to take command line option for config xml

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:28 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 8766


XML file is same a registry settings. You can export the settings from HKCU\Software\IvoSoft key to export all Classic Shell settings. If you wish to export only Start Menu settings, export only this branch: HKCU\Software\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu\Settings. Finally, if you wish to make these settings...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: I've created a metro style pack....

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:21 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 29884


Nice skins! You could merge them in a single .skin file with radio buttons as color options.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: deactivate the Charms Bar touch gesture

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:10 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 31979


Hmm. Looks like a way must be found to disable the touch gestures as well if possible. Do you have a multi-touch laptop trackpad or single point touch ? I downloaded updated TouchPad drivers on my Windows 8 and now I have those gestures too for my single point touchpad. Look in the Mouse Control Pan...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Allow installer to take command line option for config xml

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:03 am 

Replies: 9
Views: 8766


All Classic Shell settings are stored in the registry at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\IvoSoft. So you can back up that key and silently merge it. The XML is only there as a manual way for novice users to easily restore the settings. Note that changing the registry settings directly while the Start Men...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Set number of previous items?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:59 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 3223


@paaland, from the Special items tab, you can also uncheck 'Show recent programs on top' so Recent programs go in the middle and Pinned items go at the top.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Buffer area to the left of the start menu icon

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:55 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 3654


Moving the button to the right will break Fitt's law for most users so it's a bad idea to leave space to the left of the button :). Those who prefer to have it such that shoving the mouse pointer into the bottom left corner opens the menu won't like it. Having an option is not justified because ther...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Pin to Startmenu

 Post subject: Re: Pin to Startmenu
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:47 am 

Replies: 16
Views: 12608


@jep, this feature already exists even if the method of pinning is not the same as the one used by Windows 7 (read in that tutorial why). If you follow the link above to the tutorial where it explains how you can add a 'Pin to Start Menu' item to the context menu, then for such 'pinned' programs, th...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Option for including computer name on caption

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:24 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 4506


%computername% is the environment variable you need to use. Just put it wherever you want. There are 3 places to put it - 'Menu caption', 'User name text' (both on Menu Look tab) and on the Start button tab, you can put %computername% in the 'Button tooltip'. If you want it in the caption including ...

 Forum: Chitchat   Topic: classic shell

 Post subject: Re: classic shell
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:41 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 13068


Thanks for the kind words. If you find it useful, tell more people about it and donate to support its development. :)

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Classic Shell stopped working

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:49 pm 

Replies: 18
Views: 12301


Sorry, the service is there only on Windows 8. Try to download the installer again and do a 'Repair' installation.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Opaque Task Bar

 Post subject: Re: Opaque Task Bar
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:59 am 

Replies: 6
Views: 5542


Download this tool: http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.199

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Prevent users from choosing default style

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:07 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 2285


You can export the contents of this registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu to a reg file. To apply it for all users, you can merge silently at user logon using a Group Policy user script. Or if you want to lock down the settings and not allow users to make any changes, repl...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic menu disappered

 Post subject: Re: Classic menu disappered
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:51 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 6464


Btw Classic Shell only includes translation for toolbar labels, the Explorer UI and the start menu items. If you are interested in fully translating Classic Shell to Norwegian (like the settings UI etc), let us know here.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: MOVING APPS IN START MENU

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:48 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 3000


App shortcuts are located here: %localappdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Application Shortcuts inside a folder each. By default, just left click drag and drop creates a shortcut. You can hold down Shift and left click and drag and drop them to move them inside 'All Programs' or subfolders inside 'All Progra...
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