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| Author: | songwoods [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4.3.0 |
After update to W10 Creator, the home screen would 'refresh' (rebuild) every ~3 seconds. Nearly impossible to use the PC as any command (or click) needed to be completed within this time (~3 secs). CTRL-ALT-DEL about all that was do-able, and even then STOPPING a process (ClassicShell) was difficult. Finally stopped and Problem stopped. Uninstalled 4.3.0, rebooted and no problem. Re-DL'ed, installed 4.3.0 and reboot and problem returned. Uninstalled. Been using CS since Win8, love it and hope you can fix. thx HPENVYTOUCHSMART 15-J150US Win 10 Pro - 15063.413 |
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| Author: | Gaurav [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
Try using the Classic Shell Utility to completely remove it including all Settings for all users: http://www.mediafire.com/download/3uker ... tility.exe Then re-install it. The Windows 10 build upgrade process is defective and may not be successfully migrating everything correctly resulting in Explorer crashes. Microsoft is unable to fix it despite Windows 10 being around for so many years. Your best option if you want a reliable operating system is Windows 7 or 8.1 with Classic Shell. |
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| Author: | songwoods [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
Re-installed 4.3.0. Blinking started about 6 secs. after it finished. Ran Uninstaller, Report below Re-installed. Blinking started about 6 seconds later. opened Task Manager and it required 10 or 12 "End Task"s to stop - or stop restarting. It appeared to disappear from the process list and then re-appear, like the 'blinking' is Win reloading the desktop Report******************* Classic Shell Utility - removing Classic Shell from the system Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{ECD4FC4D-521C-11D0-B792-00A0C90312E1}\TreatAs Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Launcher.ImmersiveApplication\ShellEx\ContextMenuHandlers\StartMenuExt Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Launcher.SystemSettings\ShellEx\ContextMenuHandlers\StartMenuExt Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\ClassicExplorer.DLL Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\ClassicIE.DLL Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\StartMenuHelper.DLL Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{62D2FBE4-89F7-48A5-A35F-DA2B8A3C54B7} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{65843E27-A491-429F-84A0-30A947E20F92} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{DF3255F4-FF55-44FA-A728-E77B83E9E403} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shellex\DragDropHandlers\ClassicCopyExt Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shellex\DragDropHandlers\ClassicCopyExt Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers\StartMenuExt Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers\StartMenuExt Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shellex\DragDropHandlers\ClassicCopyExt Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\lnkfile\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers\StartMenuExt Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ClassicExplorer.ClassicCopyExt Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ClassicExplorer.ClassicCopyExt.1 Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ClassicExplorer.ExplorerBHO Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ClassicExplorer.ExplorerBHO.1 Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ClassicExplorer.ExplorerBand Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ClassicExplorer.ExplorerBand.1 Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ClassicExplorer.ShareOverlay Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ClassicExplorer.ShareOverlay.1 Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ClassicIE.ClassicIEBHO Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ClassicIE.ClassicIEBHO.1 Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{449D0D6E-2412-4E61-B68F-1CB625CD9E52} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{449D0D6E-2412-4E61-B68F-1CB625CD9E52} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{553891B7-A0D5-4526-BE18-D3CE461D6310} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{553891B7-A0D5-4526-BE18-D3CE461D6310} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{594D4122-1F87-41E2-96C7-825FB4796516} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{594D4122-1F87-41E2-96C7-825FB4796516} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{8C83ACB1-75C3-45D2-882C-EFA32333491C} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{8C83ACB1-75C3-45D2-882C-EFA32333491C} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{D3214FBB-3CA1-406A-B3E8-3EB7C393A15E} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{D3214FBB-3CA1-406A-B3E8-3EB7C393A15E} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{E595F05F-903F-4318-8B0A-7F633B520D2B} Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{E595F05F-903F-4318-8B0A-7F633B520D2B} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Extensions\{56753E59-AF1D-4FBA-9E15-31557124ADA2} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Extensions\{56753E59-AF1D-4FBA-9E15-31557124ADA2} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\ElevationPolicy\{02E6771D-8375-42B9-9F83-B4730F697900} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\ElevationPolicy\{02E6771D-8375-42B9-9F83-B4730F697900} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\ElevationPolicy\{56753E59-AF1D-4FBA-9E15-31557124ADA2} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\ElevationPolicy\{56753E59-AF1D-4FBA-9E15-31557124ADA2} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\ElevationPolicy\{C0393554-9B48-458A-B91B-3F684D003B2F} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\ElevationPolicy\{C0393554-9B48-458A-B91B-3F684D003B2F} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Browser Helper Objects\{449D0D6E-2412-4E61-B68F-1CB625CD9E52} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Browser Helper Objects\{449D0D6E-2412-4E61-B68F-1CB625CD9E52} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Browser Helper Objects\{EA801577-E6AD-4BD5-8F71-4BE0154331A4} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Browser Helper Objects\{EA801577-E6AD-4BD5-8F71-4BE0154331A4} Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\ShellIconOverlayIdentifiers\ShareOverlay Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\ShellIconOverlayIdentifiers\ShareOverlay Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\IvoSoft\ClassicShell Searching for installer registry key in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Features Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Features\A03BB3837A4B6664A93822FC8A460079 Searching for installer registry key in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Products Deleting registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Products\A03BB3837A4B6664A93822FC8A460079 Searching for installer registry key in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall Deleting registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{383BB30A-B4A7-4666-9A83-22CFA8640097} Deleting user settings from HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\IvoSoft Deleting registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\IvoSoft\ClassicExplorer Deleting registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\IvoSoft\ClassicShell Deleting registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu Deleting registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\IvoSoft Deleting file C:\Users\songw\AppData\Local\ClassicShell\DataCache.db Deleting directory C:\Users\songw\AppData\Local\ClassicShell Deleting file C:\Users\songw\AppData\Roaming\ClassicShell\Pinned\Calculator - Shortcut.lnk Deleting file C:\Users\songw\AppData\Roaming\ClassicShell\Pinned\desktop.ini Deleting file C:\Users\songw\AppData\Roaming\ClassicShell\Pinned\Paint.lnk Deleting file C:\Users\songw\AppData\Roaming\ClassicShell\Pinned\startscreen.lnk Deleting directory C:\Users\songw\AppData\Roaming\ClassicShell\Pinned ERROR: Failed to delete directory C:\Users\songw\AppData\Roaming\ClassicShell\Pinned. Access is denied. Deleting directory C:\Users\songw\AppData\Roaming\ClassicShell ERROR: Failed to delete directory C:\Users\songw\AppData\Roaming\ClassicShell. The directory is not empty. Deleting settings for user Administrator Deleting settings for user DefaultAccount Deleting settings for user Guest Deleting file C:\ProgramData\ClassicShell\update.ver Deleting directory C:\ProgramData\ClassicShell Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Classic Skin.skin Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Classic Skin.skin7 Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Full Glass.skin Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Metallic.skin7 Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Metro.skin Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Metro.skin7 Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Midnight.skin7 Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Smoked Glass.skin Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Windows 8.skin Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Windows 8.skin7 Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Windows Aero.skin Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Windows Aero.skin7 Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Windows Basic.skin Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\Windows XP Luna.skin Deleting directory C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicExplorer32.dll Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicExplorer64.dll Delay deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicExplorer64.dll Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicExplorerSettings.exe Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicIEDLL_32.dll Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicIEDLL_64.dll Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicIE_32.exe Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicIE_64.exe Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicShell.chm Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicShellReadme.rtf Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicShellUpdate.exe Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicStartMenu.exe Delay deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicStartMenu.exe Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicStartMenuDLL.dll Delay deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicStartMenuDLL.dll Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ExplorerL10N.ini Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\HISTORY.txt Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\IE Settings.lnk Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\PolicyDefinitions.zip Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Start Menu Settings.lnk Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Start Screen.lnk Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\StartMenuHelperL10N.ini Deleting file C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\StartMenuL10N.ini Delay deleting directory C:\Program Files\Classic Shell Deleting file C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Classic Shell\Classic Explorer Settings.lnk Deleting file C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Classic Shell\Classic IE Settings.lnk Deleting file C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Classic Shell\Classic Shell Help.lnk Deleting file C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Classic Shell\Classic Shell Readme.lnk Deleting file C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Classic Shell\Classic Shell Update.lnk Deleting file C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Classic Shell\Classic Start Menu Settings.lnk Deleting directory C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Classic Shell Deleting file C:\WINDOWS\System32\StartMenuHelper64.dll Delay deleting file C:\WINDOWS\System32\StartMenuHelper64.dll Deleting file C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64\StartMenuHelper32.dll |
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| Author: | Ivo [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
Do you happen to have the IDT audio driver? It is known to be incompatible with the latest Windows 10. |
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| Author: | songwoods [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
Yes -pretty common with HP. Audio is working. |
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| Author: | Ivo [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
The problem is the control panel applet in C:\Windows\System32\IDTNC64.cpl. Even without Classic Shell, Explorer will crash if you open the control panel. You need to delete or rename that file. |
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| Author: | songwoods [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
My bad. I *had* IDT. Previous Win10 problem forced me to replace with Microsoft. IDT does not appear in my Control Pannel and C:\Windows\System32\IDTNC64.cpl doesn't RUN. Current driver is: MS High Definition Audio Device HdAudio.sys 10.0.15063.0 Any other ideas ? |
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| Author: | Ivo [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
Then you need to capture a crash dump to see what is really going on. Instructions are at the top of this page. |
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| Author: | songwoods [ Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:15 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 | ||
Since Explored doesn't crash ran d:procdump64 -n 10 -s 1 explorer.exe ran several time with the same result - [17:07:48] Timed: [17:07:48] Dump 1 initiated: D:\explorer.exe_170711_170748.dmp [17:07:49] Dump 1 complete: 10 MB written in 0.3 seconds [17:07:51] The process has exited. [17:07:51] Dump count not reached. Zip file has 4 dumps. Thanks
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| Author: | songwoods [ Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
With my traskbar completely rewriting every 3 seconds, I'm guessing that counts as a 'crash'. Ran procdump64 -e explorer.exe File attached. [17:31:03] Exception: E06D7363.?AVResultException@wil@@ [17:31:03] Exception: E06D7363.msc [17:31:03] Exception: C0000005.ACCESS_VIOLATION [17:31:03] Unhandled: C0000005.ACCESS_VIOLATION [17:31:03] Dump 1 initiated: D:\explorer.exe_170711_173103.dmp [17:31:03] Dump 1 complete: 11 MB written in 0.3 seconds [17:31:04] Dump count reached. |
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| Author: | Ivo [ Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
I don't see an attached file in the last post. |
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| Author: | songwoods [ Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:25 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 | ||
[-WEBKIT-CENTER]The extension dmp is not allowed.[/-WEBKIT-CENTER] [-WEBKIT-CENTER] [/-WEBKIT-CENTER] [-WEBKIT-CENTER]attached as a zip[/-WEBKIT-CENTER]
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| Author: | Ivo [ Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
The crash is still in the IDTNC64.cpl file. Just delete it or rename it. |
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| Author: | songwoods [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
Deleted/REN all instances of IDTNC64.cpl file. Problem changed. 'blink time (Desktop reload ?) is now about 11 secs. (was 3). Explorer now actually crashes Moving to Explorer crash thread. thx |
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| Author: | Ivo [ Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Win 10 Creator home screen blinks -forced uninstall of 4 |
I will need a new dump. |
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