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In Controls I have set Shift+Win to open the Windows Start Screen
It only works when I press Shift+Win and then release the Win-key first.
it doesn't work when I press Shift+Win and release the Shift-key first.

That is the way modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, Alt) work everywhere in Windows as far as I know. Modifier key is always supposed to be pressed earlier.

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GauravK that’s correct, for a part.
Shift, Ctrl and Alt key-combinations in Windows normally are executed after both keys are pressed.

Not after the second key is released again.

Hmm I tried Start8 and it works both ways as you say. Win+Shift/Win+Ctrl works just as well as Shift+Win/Ctrl+Win.

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You must have been drinking

No I meant Start8 does it as you say, so it should be possible for Classic Shell for a future version. Ivo will decide that since he's the developer.

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The standard is that the modifier keys must be pressed first. That's how all shortcuts work everywhere in Windows. Try it. Set a hotkey for a shortcut to Ctrl+Alt+C. See if pressing C first and then Ctrl+Alt will work. No, it won't.
Imagine if instead of Ctrl+C you press C+Ctrl. The first key will type the letter c, messing up your text.

If Start8 wants to do something non-standard, that's up to them. Doesn't mean it is the new standard.

Ivo, you’re totally right, but that’s not the issue.
To open the Windows Start Screen in CS with Shift+Win (after this hotkey is set in Controls), you have to press Shift, then Win, and then release the Win-key.
That’s not how shortcuts work in Windows.
In Windows key-combinations are executed, as soon as the second key (Win) is pressed. (not after the second key is released again).

Ah, but the Win key is special, because it can be both a main key and a modifier.
It is the main key in Shift+Win, but a modifier for Win+E. If the menu shows up when you press Win, then you won't be able to have shortcuts like Shift+Win+E.

Aha, thank you Ivo, now I understand why.
I don’t know what Shift+Win+e stands for but I found there are Shift+Win+Arrow shortcuts for moving around the active window on the screen, so no bug, well thought and you’re absolutely right.

But that still keeps the Shift+Win shortcut usage/behavior in CS being different from “normal” Windows shortcuts.
I suggest Alt+Win might be an option.
It suits the purpose, and i.m.h.o. there is no Windows shortkey using Alt+Win or Alt+Win+whatever.
But you are the Expert.

Thanks for your explanation.